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How to stimulate the vitality of education in China?
How to Stimulate the Vitality of Education in China —— A Record of the Dialogue of the 30-member Forum on Education in China

Moderator:

The dialogue and discussion just now were very exciting, and the issues discussed were very in-depth and comprehensive. Especially in the communication link, many people are very enthusiastic and many comrades raise their hands, so the time relationship is not fully communicated.

In the morning, we discussed the concept, organization and technology of education. Next, we entered the education management system. At present, our management system is generally managed according to the traditional planned economy. Public education and public education are still dominant and have not completely changed.

. Private education is also developing. How to treat the development of private education and how to stimulate the vitality of education? Let's invite relevant experts and guests to discuss this topic. Next, please invite the dialogue moderator, 30 members of China Education Forum, and the deputy hall of Shanxi Education Department.

Zhang Zhuoyu, Vice President of China Education Association.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

The theme of this topic is how to stimulate the vitality of education. This topic is very complicated, involving the education system and education management.

I think the organizing Committee of the conference designed such a topic because our educational vitality today is not enough. Personally, I agree with such a judgment. In the past 30 years or so, the most dynamic field in China society is the economic field, and the most dynamic field has developed rapidly.

The fastest and best result. Compared with the economic field, educational leaders should say that the past 30 years have also been dynamic. For example, the emergence of our 30-member China Education Forum reflects the vitality of education. For example, in the morning and afternoon, they experienced the whole process of the Jinting Forum. Today, this

This forum goes up and down, and I think it is full of vitality. However, compared with the economic field, the vitality of the education field is far from enough. Where is the evidence and how to activate vitality? Let's listen to the opinions of three guests.

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Let me briefly talk about three viewpoints and ideas. The first idea is about private education today. A little extension, I think we don't understand education at all, and we don't understand what we are educating at all. Does America understand? No, there has always been a pendulum in American education.

Phenomenon, running around for a while, so I didn't understand it. When you forget what the teacher taught you, the rest is education. Mr. naisbitt said in the morning that education should not be full of baskets, but should light a lamp for students. How to light this lamp is different.

Law, now our education doesn't light a lamp, but we just hurry to clean up the basket. Just now, Mr. Tang Min talked about large-scale open online courses. I have a different idea. Now should not be the time. Many teachers, including those in colleges and universities, said that massive open online courses are only suitable for students from 985 University and Tsinghua Peking University, but they don't want to.

You don't have to open it, the students of Tsinghua Peking University don't have to open it, the light of the soul has not been opened, and the thirst for knowledge has not yet. If this kind of thinking is extreme to our education, our understanding is still in the virgin land, or we don't know, we need a lot of exploration, and this exploration is now.

The trouble is that we don't know what teaching is, but many people think we already know it, so we manage it according to what we know, including many problems discussed. He thinks he knows. According to this management, we think this one won't work and that one won't.

This is education and that is education. Just now, Zhou said that the answer to the test paper was not good. An author in Fujian got points for doing the problem, but he was not qualified at all. Our questioner thought he knew and understood, and then educated and managed. I said this is education.

The source of vitality, too many assessments now have a standard. Whether this standard is a standard needs to be questioned. Why is our education not energetic? I would say that our education still needs to be explored, especially in a pluralistic society.

Cable TV. We are in the era of reform and opening up. What does reform and opening up mean? What is innovation? Innovation means taking fewer detours, turning a corner and inheriting. It has been walking in accordance with the original mode of thinking, faster and faster, farther and farther. Innovation is definitely a corner. Now let's talk about the turning point and put the original

The denial that there is no growth point in the future is a leap-forward development. Generally speaking, it is overtaking. I think the current school education needs the awareness of overtaking in corners. We have refined many schools to do this according to the original practice. Many of our schools are exquisitely managed.

Including the refined egoism that has just come out, we need to take a new road now, especially when we don't know what education is, especially when many of us think that education should be done this way, but we want to take another road. At this time, we have encountered institutional obstacles.

. Especially in our public schools, do you want to bend? It is not easy. There are various systems that restrict our school. I call on schools to follow their own path in reform and innovation. We need to decentralize and untie schools. Only in this way can we stimulate our educational vitality.

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The third is private schools. From our country's point of view, what is really meaningful is the history of more than 20 years in the early 1990s. Now, it is very worthwhile for us to ponder and inspire private schools. As far as I can see, the schools I know basically have no school buildings, no teachers and no initial experience.

Fei, many schools play karate. More than 20 years have passed, many schools have disappeared, and many schools have grown and grown rapidly. Why? I'm thinking that private schools just dare to turn corners, so they overtake because they dare to turn corners. We talk about characteristic education, and these years have been special.

However, after the promulgation of the national outline in 2020, all schools in China are talking about characteristic development, but who started characteristic development at the earliest? I think it should be private education. I don't know if you have memories. In the early 1990s, the names of private schools were mostly foreign languages and reality.

Test, because in the early days of reform and opening up, foreign languages must have their own characteristics, and experiments are also unique. From the beginning, private schools have to live in the cracks, go their own way, and cannot do what public schools do. Small class, now that people are rich, the demand has increased, but there are many.

Private schools start with small classes, including the current flat management. Private schools have no choice but to raise six or seven principals, that is, one or two principals, and even some schools have only one principal. Without other principals and few departments, the vitality of education has been excavated.

Well, I think today's private schools, if there is no teacher advantage, or even no policy advantage, our private schools will die for a long time. In recent years, they have made progress, relying entirely on overtaking in corners and stimulating their teaching through reform and innovation.

Cultivate vitality, let us see another growth path of education.

Lu Zhiwen:

I went to the hearing today and I was arrested. My brand is handwritten and I want to collect it. Handwritten is more precious than printed now.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

President Li Xi was a guest at the event, but he didn't come because of something at school. Thanks to President Lu for attending the event.

Lu Zhiwen:

As soon as you control it, you will die, as soon as you release it, it will be chaotic. Life and death lie between control and release. Everyone wants to live, but the leaders are afraid of chaos. There is no suitable way to find this contradiction. We are interested in discussing this problem today. I want to find a balance between chaos and management, living without chaos and managing without chaos.

Go to hell. This is what we have been thinking for a long time, not to mention the macro policy of the country. Even small companies have to face this problem. We all want to live, and we don't want chaos, but without a certain degree of chaos, there can be no life. How to grasp this degree? In fact, people

We already have a strategy, but we haven't clearly put it forward. We walk along this road. For example, the bottom line plus creation is a strategy to solve the contradiction between management and chaos. The bottom line plus creation is a stable and efficient strategy for ensuring the bottom line and a development strategy for creating leaps and bounds.

A combination, if viewed from a macro perspective, I think there should be a division of labor to keep and create China's educational foundation, and the government should ensure that prosperity depends on the market. Public security protects the bottom line, promotes balance, lays the foundation with less fairness, and reduces the demand for choosing schools. Private enterprises promote prosperity, seek differences, promote individuality and seek

Create and meet the needs of school selection. Keeping the bottom line and creating infinity has been recognized by more and more people. In Jinting, we still feel extravagant when discussing the topic of vitality, and the lack of vitality in the field of education is the main contradiction. What are the factors that restrict the liberation of educational productive forces?

I think it should be three levels. The first is ideas. If education is lively, it should be ideological and conceptual, so there is a problem of ideological emancipation. The economic field has long proved that how to build a harmonious society today is harmony.

Satisfaction leads to harmony, how to be satisfied with a choice leads to satisfaction, how to choose and how to supply enough, and the result of prosperity and development is sufficient supply. The premise of prosperity and development is openness, which field is more open and which field is more open, and ideological emancipation leads to openness.

Open situation, open situation brings prosperity and development, prosperous development brings sufficient supply, sufficient supply brings increased choice, and increased choice brings improved satisfaction. It is such a simple truth. Why is today's education still full of police? I think it's 30 years old.

Many years ago, in the era of planned economy, we experienced that the silver bar era was an era of insufficient supply. Today, people will not be satisfied if they want to spend money and be grandchildren. Vitality comes from the liberation of thought, and education comes from the liberation of thought first. I talked about this topic this morning, colleges and universities.

It is great to accept government control when using government funds. Where did the money come from? What the people give, the government must accept the management of the people, the government must accept the management of the government when it gives you money, and whether the people can accept the management of the people when they give you money. This is reasonable.

The second is the mechanism. System is structure, and structure is very important. The market economy has brought about the rapid development of China's economy, and some mechanisms have to be introduced. I think there should always be one, and this mechanism is the market mechanism. Promote this mechanism now.

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The third activity, I think, should be method activity, mode activity, which is actually scientific and technological activity, innovation activity, and all kinds of things that can liberate productive forces should be released. But today, I see that the school is the most exclusive unit of scientific and technological innovation, and it is reasonable that individual teachers should be the most knowledgeable.

Yes, but to be honest, in the era of knowledge economy, I have observed that teachers are really not a group that loves learning. This is problematic because there is no mechanism to promote it. Why should we embrace technological progress? Because technological progress can liberate what power, but

Why do we turn a blind eye to the liberation of productive forces and are unwilling to use it? It is because I have nothing to do with liberating productive forces or not that I have no motivation. Therefore, the birth of educational vitality is inevitably the result of ideological emancipation, institutional innovation and scientific and technological progress.

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Zhu Yongxin:

As you can see, it is right to invite Lu Zhiwen. At first, he was asked to take my place. I arrived in the morning, and Mr. Xigui took his place because he couldn't come because of something. Mr. Lu's flight was originally this afternoon, but it was changed to an evening flight. When we arrive at our destination, it will be two o'clock in the evening. Why did you choose him,

Because there is no vitality, what vitality does the spokesperson of private schools talk about? He can present himself and share with us. He is very successful. He has been the principal of many private schools, and has more than ten private schools under his command, including public schools and new trusteeship.

The school, which has its own private school, is the principal of eleven private schools. He runs a successful one and a living one, and should be an expert in private education.

The vitality of our discussion today is more from the perspective of mechanism and system. I think we can look at it from three levels. The first is whether the channels for social participation in education are smooth and dynamic. Second, whether the local education administrative department or the local government is creative and has the power to implement it.

I think the reform of education, whether the school has autonomy and whether it has done anything in education are three levels. From the social point of view, I think a vibrant education should be the influx of social elites, intellectual resources, human resources and a large number of social funds.

Flow, frankly, the road is not very smooth now. For example, social capital, as I said just now, most of our private education in China is snowballing, not private capital. I saw that Wan Ren University didn't invest much money at first, unlike HKU.

Tens of billions of dollars to run a famous university in ten years, they can run it, we don't have it, and we can't get in with money. Cao spends a lot of money to run a fund but can't run education. He can't run a school in a listed company, so he can only cooperate with other middle schools. He said it was best to give.

Famous universities can compete with Tsinghua of Peking University. China has strict requirements for running a school, such as 500 mu of land, not less than one mu. Many places in Hong Kong can run universities on the first floor. Why do you need 500 mu of land? There are all kinds of possibilities for universities, and there must be 500 acres of land. How many lots of land are there in China?

The difficulty is that you can take it if you want. This is killing me.

Those who are not allowed to do undergraduate courses first must start from junior college. Three-year college graduates can only apply for undergraduate courses after argumentation. After three years of undergraduate course, graduates can enroll for master's degree after examination and approval, and master's degree projects need to be examined and approved one by one. They will become doctors after their master's degree. There is no 20 years of uncertainty. if

Do you have the conditions to run a first-class university when you come in to run a university? I think we should set standards. Who, what kind of resources and funds can run a doctor? Just approve it directly Nobel Prize winners in the world invite some people and elites from all over the world. Why?

I think it is impossible to run a better school than Peking University and Tsinghua. China has a large stock of private capital, and it does many other things, that is, it doesn't come to education, not because it doesn't want to, but because it can't get in. My idea must be to believe in one, create one, and believe in folk capital and folk wisdom.

The way to enter education, including that excellent talents don't like to come to education, is a social problem.

The second is the place, because China is vast and too big. The gap in my area is far beyond our imagination. The gap between these areas makes it impossible for education to be guided by a policy, and the state can use one thing.

Policies, such as basic personnel training requirements, have a basic quality as citizens of China and China, and this country can regulate them. But how to run education, how to run education, how to arouse the enthusiasm of the local people, the eight immortals cross the ocean, each showing their magical powers and using them.

Education bound to death by this standard will certainly not be dynamic. Adapting measures to local conditions should be the basic value and guiding ideology of our national public education policy. Some people say that when Peking Opera enters the campus, northerners can understand it, Guangzhou can listen to Cantonese opera, and Suzhou can be Kunqu opera, so we should leave room for local people.

There is also the withdrawal of schools, and we have taken many detours. Miniature schools are a good aspect. Under the background of emphasizing big industry, the scale of the school is overemphasized. A school with tens of thousands of people can't have personality. The smaller they are, the more energetic they are and the more choices they have.

We say that reunification will lead to death, and once it is released, it will be chaotic. We will either rush to the same place or cut across the board, so it is difficult to have public communication. Of course, Shanxi and Shandong have made a lot of explorations in education reform, but they still dance with shackles, although they dance wonderfully. This is to give full play to local enthusiasm and put

Local enthusiasm is deprived. No

How is the vitality of the school open? We know that the headmaster is the king of the school in the end and can make a difference on campus. However, if we want to give power and ability space, we can't control it now. Now many principals say that there is no room and they really want to reform, but

The system of light political theory courses in universities almost occupies a lot of space, and there is no way to start professional courses. It is also normal to want to open elective courses. The proportion of compulsory courses is so large that there is no choice at all. Many schools say that there is no room for R&D courses and national courses.

Courses and local courses are full, so it is difficult for schools to have really valuable curriculum space. To be dynamic, we must first give more rights, space and freedom to the society, then to the localities and finally to the schools. They will definitely want to have more ideas and wisdom in their lives, and they will give more.

Energy, more vitality.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

Thank you, three of you, for briefly talking about your main views on this topic. I think everyone here is very interested in this topic, and there will be many questions you want to ask. Please be prepared to ask questions later. As the first questioner, I just said that it is possible to untie public schools.

We can't be specific about this topic.

How to stimulate the vitality of education in China?

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I think two shackles have bound the school to death. One is the role of management and academic testing. The second is the curriculum standard.

I don't object to curriculum standards, but the current curriculum standards are very misleading. The latest information, American standards, is also working on standards. I think that standard is completely different from ours. It is to cultivate students' curiosity and cooperation spirit. I

Our standard is knowledge standard, which we impose on discipline and education.

Let me give you an example. In the first grade of primary school, there is a knowledge point called "around". I was told that all the sixth-grade students already knew, and we didn't know until our teacher educated us. Why? Because there is an exam, it is confusing to reflect the left and right exams on the donation surface.

Left and right are just the opposite. Our children should know the abstract concept of space in the first grade. When do our students go to the tenth grade? Some people say that our curriculum standards are many, including how many minutes and seconds, and two minutes to solve problems in grade six, but we

I want to teach a class, but I can't teach it well. This is caused by standardization. Students must master the knowledge of 123456.

Our administration takes a unified examination once a year, which is linked to the ranking and the position of principal, even very small. Teachers must practice repeatedly according to the content of curriculum standards in order to meet the administrative unified examination and the so-called school honor. So there is no school at all.

Our own independent space, or our space is very narrow, so how did our school's school-running characteristics come from? How can we get to the corner of our school? Therefore, if our school wants to carry out major reforms, especially deep-seated reforms, it is not the original addition, subtraction and tinkering.

Reform, how to change?

In a school with "classes in the morning and activities in the afternoon" mode, we have encountered many problems in modern education, and how to complete the national curriculum. The Ministry of Education stipulates that national courses should be offered, and our Academy of Educational Sciences and we jointly issued a document to establish several similar Shenzhen Special Zones.

Similarly, the school in the incubator base can break through the current administrative norms, and can not offer enough national courses and give him a death-free card. We have been working for five years now, and there have been no complaints from our parents. We boil down to two main problems in school management. First of all, standardization is more important than innovation. We have too many.

There are too many norms and rules, not only innovation, but also the result is greater than the process. What is the score of the result theory test and where is it ranked? We seldom pay attention to the process based on this advantage.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

Just now, Lu Dean talked about the vitality, ideological vitality, mechanism vitality, innovation vitality and mechanism vitality of opportunity education.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

Thank you very much. Let's talk with President Zhu. Just now, we changed three viewpoints on the vitality of education. One is the participation of social resources, the other is the vitality of local governments and the increase of school autonomy. These problems need government reform, decentralization and loosening, so that social resources can

Sufficient access to education, more active local governments and more autonomy of schools all need the government to do. Now, from another angle, as an academic organization and a non-governmental organization, what can China Education Thirty Forum do to activate education in China?

Zhu Yongxin:

Vitality and ideological vitality are prerequisites. Some people say that education is the last bastion of planned economy. The implication is that education still lacks vitality, and education is not enough to emancipate the mind. This is a very important question. We lack the collision of ideas. Education is a relatively closed field, and everyone can.

In order to see that we can hear Beijing opera experts talk about their opinions everywhere all day, whether it is the stock market, finance or enterprises, we can see them in any newspaper. But I hardly see educators expressing their views in newspapers. I did express more views. General teaching

Yu Jia, our guests usually can't hear their voices. They are not without ideas. There are two problems. One is that education is relatively closed, and education speaks its own words behind closed doors. Our forum invites humanists like Mr. Wang and Mr. Zhou to cross national boundaries.

Only in this way can we generate sparks of thought and provide wisdom for education. Wisdom is often collided and even discussed in the process of confrontation. At the same time, there is such a platform that we often get together. It is rare for us to meet and chat together. Our teachers are basically studying.

Do your own research, publish academic opinions, and write your own works in academic journals. Their words rarely get heaven and books. Heaven is the decision of the country, and underground is the philosophy that can truly become ordinary people.

I think the education in China needs a big discussion. Everyone really knows what a good education is. At present, the whole society is very concerned about education, and the whole society is betting on children, but how many people really know how to train children into good people?

In fact, there is no consensus on how to really run education well. I have always said that we need the idea of educational reform, the ideological basis and the mass basis of educational reform. It is not difficult to reform now. Once the truth is told, we can do it boldly, sometimes.

I did it after listening to one side of the story. I found it wrong after I did it. When the experts make it clear, it seems to make sense. I found many problems after doing it. In the morning, xu teacher talked about hitting eight targets and seven targets. It is good to formulate policies, but it has defects. Otherwise, it should be able to hit ten targets. these

Defects can be avoided. Most of the roads we have traveled are traveled by foreign countries, but our national conditions are different. China's national conditions are unique in the world. Communicate more, collide more, communicate more, let's share, people educate people, people manage people, no.

It is the common people who pay for it, but they contribute their thoughts and wisdom to the reserve, and education has hope. Our forum is to provide such a stage for more people to make suggestions. Through various channels, Tang Min is the counselor of the State Council, who can give advice to the leaders of the State Council and give negative opinions to the democratic parties.

Responsible people can participate in the discussion of state affairs through their own channels, collect everyone's opinions through their own paths, reflect them, and provide suggestions for decision-making as much as possible. We are not a strict organization, but a platform for thinking. We are positive energy and politics.

The responsibility of our democratic parties is to help the ruling party, do our duty for the country and serve the people. This is the case with our forum of 30 people, giving good ideas for the country and working hard for better education.

Lu Zhiwen:

Customer: Thank you, teacher. I started raising my hand in the morning. Up to now, I went to the front to explain that as long as you do it, it will be realized. I am now educating what I have done and seriously considering it. As long as I do it, I will do it well. Just now the teacher talked about exquisiteness.

Egoism, I am a fresh college graduate, I want to say that I don't want to be a part of the problem, I want to be a part of solving it. The education we are doing now is a combination of minor education and adult education, because we believe that minor education is a kind of feedback to adult education.

Through our practice and theoretical study, including some articles by teachers, we are more and more convinced now. Now we have some activities and projects, saying that it is a problem is actually asking for help, because we have told the leaders, teachers, including the principal, including the media.

When I was in love, they all said that your idea was good. You thought for a long time, but you didn't make me understand. What logic is this? In other words, your practice is not enough to support your thoughts.

If you give me another ten or twenty years, I'm sure I can support my ability, but now we are starting a business. In the innovation stage, the so-called innovation means that we should have the confidence to do it and lead a group of people to do it with confidence. The problem we are facing now is hope.

When you get some practical opportunities, this is not available. Why do you want to do this? I am very excited about the forum made by the teacher. Teachers advocate innovation and vitality. Just now, Teacher Lu said that the teacher may be doing his own academic research after he comes back. We'll be there when we get back.

When doing practical projects, talk to teachers, principals and leaders, and everyone will say that you are innovating, but your idea is very good, but you didn't do it, or we dare not do it. How should we face such a problem?

Lu Zhiwen: That's how we all got here. I think it's right. The saddest thing is when you don't even have courage. Because we have the courage, we don't know if it can be realized. In practice, we hit a wall, and we bravely put forward ideas. This society has vitality. no

Don't be afraid of rejection. I think if someone pushes you out of the door, you should have the courage to climb back from the window and stick to it. There is a saying that when you look at it, you will find that when you close the door, you will open it.

Zhu Yongxin:

Guest: To ask President Zhu this question and stimulate the vitality of education reform and development, local governments should be active. Many laws, such as Higher Education Law, have constraints and obstacles. Some local governments have broken through obstacles and given full play to their enthusiasm. We established a Chinese-foreign cooperative university and gave us

It has opened up the development space and stimulated the vitality. Could you please talk about your views on promoting a vibrant university for us?

Zhu Yongxin: The establishment of the forum is the result of everyone's efforts. Our secretary-general and team volunteers have done a lot of work. Please welcome Mr Ma Guochuan and his team. Sino-foreign cooperation in running schools is definitely worth encouraging, supporting and exploring. I was in charge of education in Suzhou at that time.

Vice mayor, it is difficult to break through some restrictions of higher education law, but there is no doubt that this is a faster way. Why can't economic enterprises introduce foreign intelligence? Attracting foreign intellectual capital is as important as foreign intelligence.

Source is more valuable than attracting capital. We say that China people are not poor in money, brains, wisdom and ideas. Just now, Wen Zhi introduced the reality he saw in Doha. I think we should encourage attracting more world-class universities and even first-class people under the framework of our laws.

It must be an important direction to start a new university. Now that our policy is getting wider and wider, there will be more and more possibilities, not necessarily complete world-renowned universities. There are many well-known universities that insist that Qingshan does not relax and does not come out of the mountain. You can come from departments and disciplines.

, talents come over. Some people come to run schools to give financial support. Foreign countries are not principals, but they can be principals here. They need government support, such as tax and financial support, and more policies are introduced. The next round of education needs great development, just like introducing foreign economy.

Resources, now millions of projects, can bring a lot of resources to attract returnees back, and at the same time attract internationally renowned scientific research institutions and universities to China for development and opportunities. I believe there will be a breakthrough in this respect.

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Guest: First of all, I would like to thank several experts for their wonderful speeches. I have two questions. Just now, both Dean Fang and President Lu mentioned one aspect. Dean Fang mentioned the work of quality inspection, which is very valuable. Lu Dean mentioned school fraud. There have been many big frauds in the past two years.

Phenomenon, leading to primary school students in fraud since childhood, my words are that teaching children to lie is more shameful than committing crimes, but what should the government do about the common phenomenon?

This year is 20 14, 100 years ago, 19 14 years ago. It took a while to get to 19 15 years. We know that it was at the beginning of the New Culture Movement. Chen Duxiu founded a youth magazine in Shanghai, and later New Youth. Such ideological emancipation has influenced China for one hundred years.

The development of education is closely related to this movement. What I want to ask is how my forum today has influenced China in the past century.

Fang Zhanhua: I don't think the overall planning problem mentioned just now is too serious, even if it is, it is not too serious. The problem is that there is something wrong with the orientation required of students. A score of 99 is not necessarily better than 88, and students with knowledge are not necessarily better than those without knowledge.

Well, education drives students to go to school, but the problem is that the road to education is getting narrower and narrower.

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Guest: There are too many examples of writing answers on the blackboard.

Fang Zhanhua: I think this problem can be solved quickly by the rule of law.

Lu Zhiwen:

I want to respond that with the gradual legalization, the factors of social perfection will gradually decrease. Because education requires higher standards and requirements, I am more sensitive to the education system, or I should reduce a benign and better education. We're out of place.

The assessment is not consistent with what we want, so there is this phenomenon, which is manifested in the college entrance examination to the greatest extent. For 20 years, it has been said that quality education is needed. Since the implementation of quality education, as long as the quality is enough in the exam, high score means high quality, which is what we want. Therefore,

There is no contradiction between grades and quality education. Why is there exam-oriented education? We want to test the quality of children, but we don't know how to test them. Our testing theory and technology are very backward. It is a big mistake to test subjects without quality. We take the double-base exam, not the exam.

Subject, there is already a big error, as long as you do well in the exam. The problem is that you did this when you took the double base exam. When you test knowledge and skills, you test more teachers' skills and more skills. Something's wrong. Recite by rote, learn more by rote.

You can get a mark, practice makes perfect, and you can get more questions. It was originally a quality, and finally it became a score. Scores are more useful than quality, so we only care about scores, and quality education becomes two skins. We don't want to test the quality of children, but the basis of the test is relatively backward.

We can't do whatever we want, but we need this effort. How to focus on the past exams is monopolized by the state, and people and society will not focus on this direction, so there will be no progress. Today's third-party exam evaluation, or reform, may make a good start.

Road, these can be solved step by step, and I am still full of confidence in the future.

Zhang Zhuoyu:

There are still many people who want to ask questions, which is good. Today, our topic is to distract everyone's thinking. Finally, I summarize our discussion in one sentence. I think up to now, many experts from the 30-member forum are present, and the audience still has such enthusiasm. There are still many people who can give it.

Ask questions, as long as there are guests present and pay attention to the discussion, education in China will be full of vitality. Thank you all.