1What is the price of psychological consultation in 200 yuan every 50 minutes?
■ Psychological counseling is expensive.
"Hello, is this the Peking University Clinical Psychological Center?"
"Yes, what can I do for you?"
"My wife wants to commit suicide. What should I do? "
"We have a very professional family therapist here, and you can make an appointment with him. His charging standard is every 50 minutes 1200 yuan. "
The visitor immediately purchased two 50-minute conversations with the therapist. In his opinion, if psychotherapy and counseling can save his family, he doesn't care how much it costs. And every 50 minutes 1200 yuan is just a meal with friends and entertainment expenses for one night, which is not even enough. This visitor is the owner of a company in Zhongguancun, Beijing, and now has tens of billions of personal assets. His wife once gave him a lot of support during his struggling years. Now I have a successful career, but I am facing the painful situation that my wife will commit suicide because of psychological problems.
Peking University Clinical Psychological Center, which officially opened in July 12, offered the highest price for psychotherapy and consultation in China: every 50 minutes 1200 yuan. This price immediately caused an uproar in the industry.
"Who can explain to me why the psychological consultation fee is so expensive?" Some people question whether such a high price is moral. Will it shut out a large number of ordinary people who need psychological counseling and treatment?
"Good products and services should have high prices." Professor Congzhong from Peking University Institute of Mental Health, executive deputy director of the center, said: "A writer in Beijing is also engaged in psychological counseling while writing. His price is 800 yuan every 50 minutes. I dare say that all the experts in the consulting department of Peking University Clinical Psychological Center are more professional than that writer. Why can't we set such a price? " According to the introduction of the crowd, the charge standard of psychotherapy in Beijing United Family Hospital is $0/50 every 50 minutes, equivalent to RMB 1200 yuan.
It is emphasized that in the face of the market, it cannot be measured by moral standards. For example, a person with myocardial infarction needs cardiac intervention to place a stent, and a stent costs tens of thousands of yuan. The family is poor and can't afford to pay, so they watch the patient die. Do you hate doctors or hospitals at this time? Why is the price so high? ! Is there any morality? !
"1000 yuan consulting fee is very expensive, but it is from the perspective of pure consumption; From the perspective of life investment, it is not expensive. " For example, a friend once spent 6.5438+0.5 million yuan on psychotherapy. Now he earns more than 6000 yuan a month, not counting bonuses or anything. Moreover, he has a girlfriend, bought a house and is going to get married soon ... this is something he never dared to think about before! My friend said excitedly that without the help of psychological counseling, he wouldn't have everything he has now. At that time, serious psychological problems made him hide at home and even thought about suicide. This 1.5 million yuan is too valuable for him.
"The psychological services we are providing now are not to reduce the original psychological services, but to increase the quality psychological services provided to high-income people on the basis of the original psychotherapy consulting services. Low-income people can still seek low-cost psychotherapy and counseling services in the original medical institutions as before. " Bush emphasized this point.
■ Psychological counseling and therapy are luxury consumption.
It is understood that Peking University Clinical Psychology Center is jointly established by the Sixth Hospital of Peking University (Peking University Institute of Mental Health), the Department of Psychology of Peking University and the Department of Medical Psychology of Peking University Health Science Center. Professionals are mainly doctors, clinical researchers and teachers who have been engaged in psychotherapy and counseling for many years.
In an interview with reporters, Professor Congzhong made it clear that their clients are white-collar workers, especially those who stand in the middle of the road with their mobile phones when they are worth 50,000 yuan.
Does this mean that rich people need psychological counseling and treatment more? Will it lead to psychological counseling and treatment becoming the privilege of "boss"? Professor Cong didn't answer directly. However, he said that the mental health of many people who made their first fortune before 10 is worrying.
The boss of a private joint-stock company is worth tens of millions. However, if modern health standards are used, he leads a completely unhealthy life. Every once in a while, he takes antidepressants and anxiolytics. The longest time, he took them for two years in a row. I still often have to interrupt my work because of these psychological problems.
A magazine in China once made a survey of managers' pain index, and found that they all showed mental anxiety, tension, anxiety, depression, insomnia and other adverse reactions to varying degrees because the resistance and pressure they suffered exceeded their psychological endurance. Most of them are in a "tired" state, and many people are easily angry and stubborn. In a state of pain, they often can't control themselves, can't concentrate, can't make decisions, are inefficient, are irritable, and are prone to alcoholism and even drug abuse.
I am not ashamed to say that under the current circumstances, the people who can enjoy psychotherapy consultation services are the rich first, not the general public.
How to solve the psychological treatment and consultation of the general public? The way for the general public to enjoy psychotherapy and counseling services is not through the way of low fees from hospitals or doctors, but through the development of the national economy, so that people can have higher economic income, and on this basis, they can raise their awareness of mental health and make everyone willing to spend for mental health.
■ "Psychotherapist's income is not equal to escort"
People say: "According to the current market, some piano teachers who graduated from master's degree charge 45 minutes 150 yuan, and even a girl who graduated from junior high school, after two or three weeks of training, go to dance and sing with guests, and their singing is still out of tune, and their income for one hour is at least above that of 50 yuan. At present, the charging standard of psychotherapy in Beijing medical institutions is: every time in 30 yuan, experts above the subtropical high charge 60 yuan every 45 minutes, and those below the subtropical high charge 45 yuan, while some college psychological counseling centers are said to have had an ultra-low price of 2.45 yuan per hour. "
According to various opinions, "if the charge of psychotherapy can't catch up with and exceed the charge of escort, the psychotherapy industry can't develop greatly." When the number of psychological clinics in our street exceeds the number of nightclubs, and when the income of psychotherapists is higher than that of caregivers, the mental health of China people can be truly and effectively maintained. "
According to the crowd, the purpose of setting such a high price is to promote the development of psychotherapy and counseling in the direction of specialization and professionalism. An embarrassing fact is that psychotherapy and counseling in China, as an industry, can't even support itself, let alone concentrate on development.
"At present, the psychological clinics in general hospitals are making money at a loss. Don't say that they don't make money, they just make less money. It is better to close the psychotherapy clinic and change to other professional clinics! " According to various opinions, a urologist once said to him, "The fee you charge for one hour of psychotherapy is not as much as the money I earn by opening a test sheet in a few minutes." He can open the application form for laboratory examination in a few minutes, and eventually his royalty income will be high. "In fact, after you pay the money, all you get is a conversation with a lifeless machine, and the doctor can get a lot of money without blowing off dust." I think this is very unfair.
From the point of view, psychotherapists and counselors are selling their life time, that is, psychotherapists and counselors use their lives to accompany visitors to grow up. Psychotherapists and counselors, in the process of receiving visitors, should not only spend time, but also listen to the complaints and catharsis of various negative emotions of visitors. In the final analysis, it also has many adverse effects on the doctor's own mood. Now, if those economics professors give lectures to white-collar workers, such as business planning, their income can reach several thousand yuan or even ten thousand yuan an hour. "It still needs many years of professional training in clinical psychology, psychiatry and psychotherapy, but it is precisely because the consulting fee is too low that high-level clinical psychologists and professors are not as rich as psychiatrists, physicians or other industries. They prefer to give lectures rather than receive visitors and are unwilling to provide psychological counseling services for visitors. "
Generally speaking, because the current cost of a day shift is about 2000 yuan; And the training fee is higher. Such a market is actually a deformed market, but people who need psychological services can't enjoy high-level psychological treatment and consulting services. This is exactly the problem that many people encounter now: where can I find a better psychotherapist? !
In the interview, a psychological counselor who asked not to be named admitted that they usually don't give up psychological counseling mainly to accumulate materials for lectures and training. A consulting expert surnamed Xu is very angry about the current situation, but he is very helpless. This is the sorrow of the current psychological counseling and therapy industry.
At the third annual academic conference on psychotherapy and psychological counseling, experts attending the conference said that there were 550 psychological counselors for every 65,438+0,000 people in the United States in the last century, while the figure in China was only single digits, which was less than 1% of others.
Another embarrassing situation is that psychotherapy and counseling do not belong to the category of basic medical care at present. In many provinces and cities, free medical care does not include "psychotherapy and consultation". According to the crowd, the high price should not be borne by patients, but should be solved by the government or medical insurance companies. Under the current circumstances, psychological counseling can only be a high consumption and a luxury, so its price can only go up first. At the same time, I also want to tell you that psychotherapy and counseling often require many interviews to be effective. If we talk only once, it will be difficult for visitors to get the most effective help until the doctor knows what their psychology is.
Rare things are expensive. Generally speaking, I personally advocate that the price should be raised first, then adjusted through the contradiction between supply and demand in the market, and finally adjusted to a price that can be recognized by therapists or consultants and visitors, and the transaction is completed. This is the only way to market psychotherapy and counseling services.
So will psychotherapy and counseling decrease in price over time? I don't think it's possible. He said, just as plasma TV sets are industrial products, they can be mass-produced to reduce costs; The painter's oil paintings can't be mass-produced and the cost can't be reduced. Prices can only increase gradually with the development of society and the increase of people's income. Psychotherapy and counseling cannot be mass-produced without consultants and therapists. With the development of society and the increase of people's income, the price can only be higher and higher.
■ Do rich people buy such a high price?
On the third floor of a small courtyard on the northwest side of Beijing Intimate Bridge, the consulting department of Peking University Clinical Psychological Center, which has just opened for one month, has several independent consulting rooms. According to the receptionist, more than ten people come to consult every week, many of them are from other places, and most of them can accept the price here.
Although visitors are not limited to white-collar workers at present, according to its introduction, some of the visitors who hang his number are original patients. In the Sixth Hospital of Peking University, the registration fee for psychoanalysts is 9 yuan, and it takes 12 people an afternoon, and the average time for each patient is 20 minutes. It is impossible to give psychological treatment to patients in such a short time. In this center, the special registration fee for experts is 300 yuan. Because of overcrowding, some people are sometimes sent to 600 yuan by traffickers, so some people prefer to come here for "800 yuan" consultation and treatment. "The newly-opened consulting department of Peking University Clinical Psychological Center has an elegant and relaxed environment. The main customers are healthy people with psychological problems rather than mental patients, so they are more easily accepted by some white-collar workers and bosses, so that they can return to a healthy state and enjoy life. "
During the interview, a psychological counselor told reporters that many entrepreneurs in foreign countries regularly receive interviews with psychotherapy and psychological counselors several times a year, not necessarily because of psychological problems, but for psychological expansion, because entrepreneurs find that when their psychological state improves to a higher level, the company will take a step forward. Many times the bottleneck of the company comes from the psychological bottleneck of the entrepreneur himself. (Reporter Chen, reporter Chen Feng/photo)
Source: Youth News