The literary version of "Da Gong Ming Ci" appeared, and the screenwriter solemnly expounded the behind-the-scenes story (reproduced)

After the TV series "Da Gong Ming Ci" was broadcast, it caused great controversy. Praisers regard it as Hamlet of China; The detractors regard it as "the writer's one-man show". There is no doubt that people's differences on this play are mostly due to its language expression, and then its ideological connotation is realized. Recently, the literary work "Da Gong Ming Ci" was published by People's Literature Publishing House, and the author interviewed the author solemnly.

Q: When some media commented on the poem Daming Palace, it was always associated with Shakespeare's Hamlet. Do Shakespeare's plays have a great influence on you?

Zheng: it should be said that it has an impact, but it is not big. In fact, the reference book that Wang Yao and I (another author) read most often at that time was Don Juan. Before going to bed every day, we should read a paragraph aloud, although we read very little, only two pages.

Q: Why Don Juan?

Zheng: This is a state of cultivation. Exaggeration and dreamy feeling are the first tone set by director Li. So I thought of Don Juan at the beginning when I was looking for a tone to tell a story. Therefore, reciting two pages of Don Juan aloud before going to bed every day has become a must-do homework. The purpose is very simple, that is, to cultivate the temperament of speech and the ambition of written expression. Don Juan is a typical exaggerated work, lyrical and simple. I think whether describing people, events or scenes, we should have feelings, sincerity and passion.

Q: But China people are not used to this expression. China people may be more accustomed to expressing deep feelings in the ordinary.

Zheng: This is the difference of personal aesthetic identity. I think that expression is not enough. Some people enjoy reading, while others enjoy talking. This is an aesthetic difference, and there is no difference between good and bad. There are some very good works, which contain very strong feelings in the ordinary, and some people like to say that the focus is on how to say it well, how to say it more credibly, and how to express your flattering feelings more satisfactorily. On the contrary, I prefer to talk big.

Q: One of the focuses of the debate about Daming Palace Poetry is whether China people can speak like this. what do you think?

Zheng: You don't have to talk like this, but you have to have the tolerance to allow others to talk like this. In fact, the trend of society determines your aesthetics. If you are a creative person, can you speak in another way? This may cause criticism, but from the point of interest, should the uniqueness of Xiaowen's ambition be allowed? I'm not saying this style is literary, it's impossible. Then I made the same mistake as my critics.

Q: So you don't want to set an example?

Zheng: Yes, in a sense. But this expression is definitely not a direction. Once it becomes a trend and a mainstream expression, it loses its charm. Once it becomes a trend, it is really sour. The significance of its existence is only that it is still a minority in expression style at present.

Q: Why do you want to express this drama in this gorgeous form?

Zheng: Because this is the most lacking in life, once it is available, it is easy to appear solemn, and an ordinary emotion is easy to appear solemn. When all forms change in history, it will have glory and glory in it, so it is easy to reach the ultimate emotion and have great ostentation and extravagance. Sadness in life is not easy to have ostentation and extravagance. Once it has a lot of ostentation and extravagance, sadness is beautiful.

Q: What do you think of the media's comments on you, especially the negative comments?

Zheng: Some comments are in place. I am never afraid of being accused by others, as long as what I reveal to you is sincere and bright!

Q: What is your bright connotation?

Zheng: I am not afraid of weakness and have no distractions. For example, if I do this, will others see my motives? I think adolescence is the easiest time to be cheerful, and even his vanity dares to be exposed to you.

Taking Da Gong Ming Ci as an example, it is more like a contest of ideas. It has no realistic interest pursuit as the motivation of character behavior. In this play, some villains in the general sense all follow an inner idea. He is fully expressing himself and living according to his world view. Just like Zhang Yizhi, you can't explain him by usurping power.

Q: But Zhang Yizhi just wants to be emperor?

Zheng: I was forced to be emperor. His simplest logic is that when I become emperor, others will not dare to kill me. He lacks ambition for the country. He is just an avenger, which is an instinct of self-protection, not a simple sense of ruling ambition.

I don't think we can simply use one word to judge the nature of major events in history. For example, someone is an ambitious person. It's not that simple. People can't be that simple. In this play, Wu Zetian came to this step in a sense forced by the environment. From the beginning, she wanted to be a good queen, and she wanted to display her intelligence, which is the most essential. Everyone has this intuition. People are misunderstood by the environment while carrying out their intuition, and then wrongly defined by public opinion. Therefore, people fight back further, thus really starting to move away from their original intention. This is an interactive process.

In fact, the biggest controversy encountered by this drama at present is also at this point. Generally, people who hold negative opinions are used to using moral judgment as a criterion for judging right and wrong. Wu Zetian, a usurper and an aspirant, how can you make her have feelings? How could you do that? In fact, this view is irresponsible.

Q: Some people think that the poem Daming Palace is a conspiracy, right?

Zheng: This is not an intrigue. It is a drama in which a person encounters contradictions and difficulties in his own character after fully showing himself. The imperial power of this play has been endowed with more personal and metaphysical significance. For Wu Zetian, imperial power is a milestone in the great struggle between women and men. For Zhang Yizhi, imperial power is a weapon to humiliate the world. The definition of imperial power itself is bound to be questioned, so the talents who pursue imperial power are naturally different.

Now there is a saying: you can't interpret history like this, history has been finalized. This is a particularly irresponsible statement. Who reached this conclusion? You didn't talk to God on the phone, saying that I saw it. Wu Zetian has been planning her own ending after 40 years since she entered the palace as a gifted scholar.

I have no objection to writing in words. At present, it is the most efficient to express Tao in words, so we must stick to it. But the question is whether to establish a moral standard or a character standard through literature and art. I think a lovely society is a society with a lot of information, or even a perfect single information society. I seek to distinguish people in personality. I should encourage the free development of personality, but I am by no means setting an example of personality.

Jiang Lei

Beijing Morning Post