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(Positive): Please ask the opposing defense friend to answer the question I mentioned when I was asked just now. When you come home one day and find that your son has to support and your relatives are gone, do you still think it is more important to start your career again?

(Counterparty): If I encounter such a problem, I will be sad, because why? Family is necessary for us, but more importantly, I can't see it. Excuse me, the debater just said that Dayu's wife supported him in water conservancy. Does this mean that Dayu's wife also thinks that career is more important than family?

Founder: I think we have made it very clear about Dayu, because Dayu's career is to bring happiness and stability to millions of people in Qian Qian. The purpose of his career is to serve his family. Isn't family more important? Ask your opponent to answer, once your mom and dad are lost, it is impossible to find another one, so why is it more important than this?

Counterparty: The other debater is still talking about necessities. Another debater just said something about Dayu, but let's imagine that if Dayu enters the house, it will be his wife and children, and maybe this studio is still in the raging Yellow River. Would you please explain this problem with your standards and opinions?

Founder: I think another debater just said it was necessary, no, it was irreplaceable. If Dayu found that his wife was gone forever when he was managing water, I wouldn't have managed water so easily.

Counterparty: Then let's go back to the present from Dayu. What is the fundamental driving force of social development?

Founder: I think the fundamental purpose and motivation of social development is to bring happiness to thousands of families in Qian Qian. Please answer me. How does career become a harbor for people's feelings?

Opposing party: Why should career become a harbor for people's feelings? Career has its own value. The other debater just answered me. For the family, it is only the purpose of social development. I asked about motivation. What's the motive? The driving force is the development of productive forces. Is the development of productive forces mainly through career or family?

Pro: Why can't productivity provide a happy life for families? I also know that family reunion is everyone's hope

Against: Let's look at contemporary China. Modern China emphasizes the development of major economic construction. Then I don't know whether economic construction is mainly for family or career.

Debate 2

(Recipient): OK, what's the most important thing? Then I tell you, the purpose of my debate today is for my family. Can you believe it?

I don't know what the other debater thought when he said this, so I don't know whether I should believe it or not, but I know some people just said what they thought, Jack, president of General Electric Company? Wedge said: All his leadership products come from his mother's education. What's your explanation?

Against: Obviously, you don't trust me. Since you are not sure of my subjective thoughts, how can you be sure of the thoughts of all Qian Qian people? Since you are not sure what they think, how can you say that everyone values family?

Agree: The other debater doesn't believe other people's ideas so much, so why do we need statistics? Isn't statistics just statistics of everyone's thoughts? what do you think? Do other debaters doubt these data?

Recipient: You haven't answered me yet. The other debater said I didn't believe it. Just now he said he didn't know what you were thinking. Now I really don't know who doesn't believe who. And since you asked me this question, I want to tell you that the data can only explain what that person thought at that time, but what we are comparing today is an objective standard. Objectivity and subjectivity often deviate in many cases. How do you explain it?

All right, opponent, answer my question for the second time, Jack? Wedge's question, I believe everyone has an answer. Back to another debater's question, let's not just look at the survey, we also know that 9? 1 1 event, why did you think of your family instead of the office when you left your last words?

Counterparty: Then let me tell you, why do you want to go to the office? You talked about your parents today. When parents are around, they don't need the money earned by the office to feed them well. You have to say that I valued my parents and my family when you were away, but the dead are gone.

Pro: I believe that career also makes money, not necessarily career, but career and career are different. The other debater still evaded my question. Why? 1 1 In the incident, the last words were left for family members, not for the boss to say "I can't go to work tomorrow"!

Counterparty: That's true, because at that time, he had no career at all, and everyone died. What can we talk about? Today, we can never compare the disappearance of one side with the disappearance of the other.

Founder: Tell another debater that the last words were said before death, not after death. What is left after death should use the communication skills of the underworld! The other party hasn't answered. Let me ask you one more question. Zhu De told us that both his productive will and revolutionary will originated from his mother. What's your explanation?

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Jiang Changjian: I want to ask a positive question. In your theory, you think that the family, as the basic unit of society, has the responsibility to solve some problems arising from the family, such as the problems of the elderly and juvenile delinquency. Then I have a problem. Please explain to me that it is actually to solve the problem of crimes committed by the elderly and teenagers. This is that we have established a large number of medical security systems, school education and a good employment system for the whole society. thank you

(Agreed): We know that social welfare can solve these problems, but will we see the end, or will it be implemented in families? Therefore, we find that many elderly people, even if they have nursing homes, are unwilling to go because they lack the affection that blood is thicker than water in real families. What about juvenile delinquency? We have a data here, that is to say, in parents' families with criminal records and disorderly life, the crime rate of children is as high as 34%, while only 8.4% of parents have no criminal records. Therefore, I think that parents, as their children's first teacher, the first teacher, and the lifelong classroom like family, must have irreplaceable importance in their children's career.

Lei Yu: I want to ask the third debater of the other side. You just said that this profession is more conducive to promoting the realization of personal values and ideals. Then I want to ask you this question. For an individual, if he works hard, he regards the sense of belonging, responsibility and affection of his family as more important parts of his personal values and ideals. How do you judge such a person? thank you

(Counterparty): This is my understanding of this issue, because we said in the argument that this debate should not be regarded as a simple personal view, but as the mainstream view of society. What is the mainstream view of society? As China people, we should emphasize family, but as any country, we should emphasize development. What has this development brought? Of course * from my career. But at this point, we never said that everyone should accept our views, and everyone should think that career is more important than family, which is not our motivation. Our motivation is that, in value judgment, we advocate giving everything to the cause we are engaged in. Of course, if we say that as a person, such as Mr. Lei Yu and another debater, my family is more important than my career, then I don't think this can prove another debater's point of view, because if a person thinks according to such a simple logic, then it is more important. Therefore, I think that the mainstream view of society is the main basis for us today.

Free debate

Chen Xiaohuan: Excuse me, Oriental debater, why is a career that can be restarted more important than a family that can't be restarted?

Ni Ming: Another debater thinks that today's debate is based on whether we can start all over again. I don't think so. Let me ask another debater, you are talking about thousands of families in Qian Qian. Is this a career or a family?

Chen Xiaohuan: Although today's debate is not just about whether you can start from the beginning, how can you argue your question if the other debater can't even answer the question from the beginning?

Ni Ming: That was the same question just now. As another debater said, is it through career or family to fight for thousands of families?

Chen Guokun: The purpose is still for the family, right? So family is more important than career, and the other side still avoids our problems again and again. Why can't families start over? Can your career start over? But your career is more important.

Che Xing: If the other party says what the purpose is, what is more important. Then I will tell you logically that the purpose and the means are not at the same level at all. How do you compare them?

Zhao Hui: I'm not sure what ends and means mean in logic. But I can give a simple example. After our glasses are broken, we can get a new pair, but our broken eyes can't grow back. Which is more important, those that can be matched and those that can't grow, those that can be repeated and those that can't be repeated?

Ni Ming: There are some things I don't understand, whether the opponent's argument can be started all over again. For example, I got married today, and I started a family, but if we both feel inappropriate, why can't I divorce and go back to my other family?

Chen Xiaohuan: Another debater, Zhu De, said in the article My Mother that my mother taught me the knowledge of production and the will of revolution. Only this kind of knowledge and will is the most precious wealth in my life. Is the influence of family education on a person's life and career comparable?

Ni Ming: The opposition party defends the happiness of thousands of families in Qian Qian. This is the ultimate goal of every career, reflecting the goal of the career, not the family. I want to ask another debater, Lin Juemin, one of the "Seventy-two Martyrs of Huanghuagang", and his wife wrote a book. Why did he choose his career when there was a fierce contradiction between his career and his family, which proved that the other family was more important than his career?

Wu Tian: The letter from another debater, Lin Juemin, just proves our point of view, because he just sacrificed his family to help other people's families. This is not the contradiction between career and family at all, but the contradiction between a family and thousands of families in Qian Qian, or family is more important!

Li Shasha: Don't thousands of families in Qian Qian form a career? After reading the example of China, let's take a look at Nikolai Gogol abroad. He told us that if I can contribute to our cause one day, I will consider myself the happiest person in the world. May I ask your opponent, do you also think that your contribution to the public cause can bring you greater happiness?

Chen Guokun: How do thousands of families form a career? Is he in real estate?

Ni Ming: You told us that thousands of families are families, not careers, so I want to ask my opponent, what is the purpose of our public utilities? Isn't it for everyone? Isn't this person all the families? According to you, there is no concept of career. Let's talk about family.

Chen Xiaohuan: The cause mentioned by another debater is for thousands of families in Qian Qian. Doesn't this explain our point of view?

Ni Ming: My opponent, how does the family promote productivity?

Chen Guokun: The other debater just mentioned the example of Sun Yat-sen, but we know that Sun Yat-sen's wife Soong Ching Ling once said that it is the family that can leave an indelible mark on a person's life. How does the opposing debater explain this?

Concluding remarks

Counterparty summary table

In fact, the two main issues we are debating today, the first is which can better realize people's ideals and values, family or career; Second, who can better promote social progress and development. Unfortunately, however, throughout the debate, the other side has been making mistakes in logic, facts and values.

First, logical errors. There is an essential difference between necessity and fundamentality. If your logic is wrong, where does your conclusion come from? Second, your subjective standards, your standards are too subjective. We have repeatedly said today that family and career are very important to us personally, but why do we have to? Because they often conflict, they will be very contradictory. At this time, there must be an objective and independent standard to measure. This criterion is who is more conducive to realizing the value of life and promoting social development. So if you have no career, what can your happy family guarantee?

When we talk about the realization of life value, we must combine people's needs. Human needs include survival needs, enjoyment needs and development needs. At this time, it depends on who runs through the three requirements. There is no doubt that only career. Where is your family reflected? Who is more important at this time? What I need is missing. How can I survive if it matters? Second, to talk about social value, we must introduce two more important concepts: labor and creation, which we have demonstrated many times. Families also have labor, housework and labor. But the productivity it provides is far lower than that provided by the cause. What is the root of social progress? Not your personal understanding, but productivity. Let's calm down and think about it, and make a comprehensive and objective comparison from facts and values, individuals and society in a rational spirit. I'm sure you can come to the conclusion that career is more important than family.

Positive conclusion statement

When the other debater summed up his speech just now, they concluded that it is necessary for us to talk only about family today, not about family. But please think about it. Today, another debater didn't even say whether the profession was necessary. Family is at least necessary, and career is not even necessary. Does it mean that family is more important than career? Another debater has not answered our four major questions today: The first question is why people die at critical moments, including 9? 1 1 victims, they are all thinking about family, not career or boss? Another debater replied that because they are losing their careers, they can only consider their families, but 9? 1 1 Isn't the person in the incident going to lose his family soon? No career, no family. Why call home? Another debater didn't answer our second question. A career can start over, but a family can't. Why is it more important to start all over again than not to start all over again? The third question, is family education more important than career for a person's life? The opponent's answer is that career can also educate a person, and career can indeed educate a person, but how much education does career have, and does career have lifelong education? So the two are more important, aren't they more obvious? The fourth question is, how does career provide an emotional harbor for a person? Another debater's answer turned out to be why people should have emotional harbors. We know that people are emotional animals. If you only know work and have no feelings, what's the difference with animals? Think carefully about these four questions. The answer to these four questions is to tell us clearly that family is more important than career.

Guest comments

Su Shuyang (writer): I believe that in today's debate, the purpose and the means are not antagonistic, but should complement each other. It's a pity that I didn't hear the in-depth analysis and debate on the means and purposes between the two sides, so I think this is a small regret of this debate.

The positive side is emotional, very touching, especially quoting 9? 1 1 incident, such a small regret is that I didn't grasp my family and didn't grasp it from 9? The tragic event of 1 1 has a far-reaching impact on human families. Moreover, as far as language speaking skills are concerned, when it comes to 9. 1 1, there are too many adjectives and adverbs, so they don't go to court directly, and sometimes they go to court directly, which is worse than rap.

The opposing side convinces people by reasoning, and the theory is very logical. There is also a small deficiency, that is, it fails to grasp the small flaws about the positive side of family, most families and individual families to refute them in depth. So although it is logical in reasoning, it is circuitous in concept, so what it says is not so inflammatory.