Your question is rather general. First of all, people who can be called leaders of the Ministry of Education must be at least vice ministers in the Ministry of Education before they can be called leaders of the Ministry of Education, such as vice ministers, members of party committees of ministries and commissions, deputy secretaries of party committees of ministries and commissions, ministers and party secretaries of ministries and commissions. This is already very clear. The vice minister is a deputy minister and the minister is a minister.