Current fighter ranking: j20≈F35 & gt；; Su 57≥F22

Any military equipment is either integrated into the current military system of the country or a new system is built with it as the core. China's military system is a national strategic security, which was established after careful and comprehensive consideration. All core fighters designed by different countries, different times and different considerations have different performance and operational conditions.

If put together, we can only say that each has its own advantages and disadvantages, especially j20, f35 and Su 57, each with its own system and unique skills. F22 Because the first one who eats crabs tastes the worst! The other three fighter systems all have its components or are designed for it.

But if you want to compare them, the above ranking will appear.

Because of the era of fighter design, countries face different situations and different needs. The F22 is designed for Su -27 and MiG -29. For example, if the Su -27 wants to take off and land in a short distance, it requires f22. They tried to make f22 have the ability of backstepping, which eventually led to a two-dimensional vector (retained after the backstepping technology failed).

Also consider that the latecomers brought more advanced technology than f22. The targeted tactical system-F35 is aimed at j20, but the early version of j20 can be said to be a system with f22, so F35 is just right for f22.

F22 is equally embarrassed about the upgrade of fighter planes. J20, f35 and Su 57 are the core of our national system, and new materials and good equipment are preferred. The position of f22 was replaced by f35, which led to the early shutdown of f22, and the upgrade plan was all around f35. It is unfair to let f22 play against any of the three models.

At this point, you may think, according to what I said, j20 should be more equal to f22 and less than f35. But this row naturally makes sense, which will be explained later.

First of all, to make the fifth generation machine mature, you should have the following points:

Have invisibility.

With multi-function radar system

Have the ability of multi-mode situational awareness

Qualcomm has a fully functional data link.

This has brought the following changes to the air combat mode.

First of all, under the influence of stealth ability, the range of detection equipment such as airborne fire control radar is greatly shortened, so it is difficult to find and lock the target in time and guide air-to-air missiles to attack the target. It is necessary to develop a new form of enemy-seeking mode. Moreover, the guidance efficiency of air-to-air missiles will be reduced, the distance between capturing and locking targets will be greatly shortened, and data link is needed for further guidance or changing the traditional locking mode. Even if the target has been locked by the missile, the success rate of jamming, deception and getting rid of the attack will be greatly improved because of its low signal characteristics. This requires that new air-to-air missiles, such as Thunderbolt-12 and AIM- 120C, must be equipped with phased array guidance heads to improve anti-jamming ability.

Secondly, under the impression of a new generation of multimode detection system and Qualcomm data link, a brand-new tactics was born, which is different from the fourth generation aircraft or even the early fifth generation aircraft.

For active detection radar, the multifunctional radar of the new generation of fifth generation is more powerful than the fourth generation and the early fifth generation. Scientific research makes better use of the low interception probability working mode of airborne fire control radar, such as burst mode or fast frequency conversion to detect targets and lock them. This method greatly shortens the radar start-up time, effectively reduces the exposure probability, and is technically mature. However, if the target has advanced radar early warning equipment or high-precision passive radar, it may still be found. As far as passive detection means are concerned, the new generation and five generations of computers rely on more advanced data bus to integrate radar and airborne computers into passive detection system, which greatly improves the efficiency of the system, and the progress of electronic system also greatly improves the performance of passive infrared detection system. Both F35 and j20 are equipped with advanced equipment such as EODAS and EOTS, which greatly enrich the detection means and form a powerful multi-mode detection capability. With the help of Qualcomm data link, when using passive detection equipment that can only detect the target's azimuth and angle, the new generation and the fifth generation of aircraft carry out multi-machine cooperative detection, for example, using the azimuth and altitude difference of the same aircraft, triangulation, and even relying on advanced algorithms to calculate the unit price of special maneuvering flight, so as to obtain information such as the target's distance and speed to complete fire control and realize real. When active detection means such as radar are used, multi-machine cooperative scanning can be used to greatly enhance the detection capability, and Qualcomm data link can also carry out coordinated actions at all levels in organizations that form "A shooting and B guiding".

Choose the aircraft with the best launch array to undertake the attack mission. Some aircraft can use the target information obtained by themselves or transmitted by other fighters to carry out fire control calculation and launch missiles in time. When a missile is launched, if the detection capability of the aircraft decreases due to various reasons and it is not suitable to continue the missile midcourse guidance, it can also choose a new guidance platform according to the detection capability of other levels in the formation for the same target and take over the midcourse guidance right of the missile until the missile guidance head radar captures the target. Therefore, the attack effect can be significantly improved. There is no need for auxiliary aircraft such as early warning aircraft and communication support as information relay nodes. Dynamic networking is realized through scientific research, and each fighter enjoys its own data in a' combat cloud'. Every soldier can get a complete battlefield dynamic. Under the change of air combat mode, the survival and detection ability of the fifth generation aircraft is greatly enhanced, while the survival ability of the traditional early warning aircraft and tanker auxiliary aircraft is greatly reduced. These aircraft play an important role in command, early warning and detection, as well as in expanding the operational scope of our troops. Once shot down by the local government, it will have a great impact on the war situation, which is also the early operational thinking of j20. Under our air force system, j20 will rely on its own stealth.

Strike key nodes such as enemy radar stations, early warning aircraft, tankers, etc., and destroy the OODA cycle from hardware, that is, penetrate the air superiority. This will bring unimaginable threats to traditional early warning aircraft.

Faced with this challenge, the US military's coping strategy is the "mosaic war" brought by the upgrade of f35 Block4. This operational concept takes advantage of the strong survivability of the new generation of fifth-generation aircraft and creates a decentralized operational system, that is, a large number of fifth-generation aircraft and drones are used as wingmen.

Multi-aircraft cooperative detection can improve the detection capability, replace the early warning detection function of traditional early warning aircraft, replace the command function of early warning aircraft or ground and sponge command center with real-time battlefield situation, and replace the traditional large tanker (such as MQ-25 unmanned tanker) with small unmanned tanker. In this way, the detection, command and supply tasks of the whole system will be equally distributed to each unit. This concept,

The simplest way to deal with this tactic is undoubtedly our own mosaic national air defense system, and we also have such a foundation.

Mosaic combat system is based on the powerful situational awareness of the fifth generation computer. In terms of performance, Ye Hong, the chief designer in charge of j20 operating system antenna, said in another semi-public lecture that our level is not worse than that of Americans, and we can do what they can do with f35.

At the same time, relying on local air defense, a large number of cheap floating platforms (which can also be said to be air defense balloons, belonging to the dream of returning to World War I) can be arranged for frontier early warning, and ground air defense forces can also be integrated into mosaics as one of the nodes. As far as operational objectives are concerned, the purpose of our mosaic warfare national air defense is to react, fight, intercept and rebuild the air defense channel after being attacked by targets in different directions in a vast airspace, which can be seen from the large number of low-level dynamic capabilities of the equipment layer to preset floating platforms and ground air defense forces.

Moreover, we have also gained an advantage in the related technology of further countering mosaic warfare in an asymmetric way. Namely ultraviolet communication.

It can be seen that communication is the most important point in mosaic warfare. Without large-scale electromagnetic interference, the conventional electromagnetic signal communication link between the enemy and ourselves will not be available, but our army can use optical communication means with very rapid development progress to maintain basic communication and even the cooperative combat capability between drones. The common optical communication means are laser communication and ultraviolet communication, and the laser communication means is relatively mature. In 20 1 1 and 20 13 years, the US military and China completed the laser communication experiment of fixed-wing aircraft with a distance of more than 100 km and a downlink speed of 2.5gb/s, respectively. However, due to the technical characteristics, laser communication cannot command large aircraft groups, especially a large number of drones and bees to cooperate in combat.

Ultraviolet communication does not have this shortcoming, and its technical characteristics are also very suitable for large or even super-large drones. It is also a priority technology in China. In 2009, China has achieved all-weather 3-8 km ultraviolet communication, and there is no experiment of the same level in related fields abroad. At present, China has carried out a comprehensive research on UAV formation cooperation using ultraviolet communication. With the blessing of optical communication technology, our army can use the super-large UAV group with a scale far exceeding that of local areas under strong interference conditions.

Considering the difficulties of the existing indiscriminate large-scale electromagnetic interference technology, the combat system can only rely on the local land or go to the first island chain, which belongs to the defensive combat system.

Seeing this, I feel a little off topic. I won't say much.

In fact, the f22 has fallen behind in all respects. As an early fifth-generation machine, there is no place in today's sky.

The f22 was discontinued as early as 20 1 1, and the last f22 was commissioned at dobbins air force reserve base on 20 1 1, 12, 13.

The U.S. military also spent money on the research and development of the sixth-generation fighter-in 2065438+02, the U.S. military officially started the research and development of the next-generation fighter and upgraded the f35 technology. Of course, the mosaic warfare of f35 is not fully mature, and the combat power of f22 is still a heavy blow to fighter systems except f35 and j20 systems. The f22 retirement plan has been entangled repeatedly, and there is also an f22 upgrade plan that has been entangled repeatedly, and the project has been terminated and the retirement has been suspended.

But in any case, the production line is closed, which makes the current f22 can only be maintained by inventory. Can only say that the current f22 is an excessive fighter. However, the United States did not pay attention to how long it would take. Of course, it also depends on the construction progress of mosaic warfare and the research and development progress of the sixth generation machine.

As an early fifth-generation machine, f22 has faced many problems, such as high price, structural strength of double vertical tails, air inlet, oxygen supply system and so on. These are also the pits that the pioneers stepped on, which provided a lot of useful experience for j20 and f35.

The original operating system of f22 has also been replaced by the mosaic operation of f35. This substitution is comprehensive and holistic.

Tell me about j20. Here, I mainly refute the "reflective opposition to all technical routes that are not adopted by the United States" upstairs.

The influence of j20 canard on stealth has been studied for a long time. This is a study on the influence of canard on RCS in related literature.

See the original text for details, and post a conclusion here, mainly aiming at the influence of static and canard on RCS.

In fact, the influence of canard on RCS in a state of intense excitement is totally unreasonable.

Because fighters have different requirements for stealth performance in different stages of combat missions, intense stimulation is often close combat or avoiding incoming missiles. It is meaningless for the fighter to maintain a high stealth posture at this time. Due to the reduction of rudder effect under complex attitude, the rudder deflection angle is greatly increased, and the influence of flight attitude change, the RCS of existing stealth fighters will be greatly increased during complex maneuvers, which is inevitable no matter what layout. Even the RCS growth caused by the attitude change of the aircraft itself may far exceed the influence caused by a small amount of canard deflection.

In addition, in the case of supersonic speed, it is best to have a high probability RCS in high maneuvering operations. Because there is no requirement for the overall structural strength of the ventral fin, the sandwich structure of copper-based memory metal, composite skin and wave-absorbing honeycomb material with magnetic repulsion can be directly adopted. This ventral fin will not only affect the electromagnetic reflection characteristics, but also shield the engine tail nozzle and reduce the lateral radar characteristics and infrared characteristics. The rectangular nozzle of f22 is not conducive to electromagnetic stealth, and the axial symmetry of j20 and f35 is the second, and it is better to be a hidden trapezoid.

However, the axial symmetry of j20 and f35 is not conducive to infrared characteristics. No matter which engine j20 is replaced in the future, the ventral fin can provide bonus, which is not available in f35.

Moreover, the recent breakthrough of this material makes j20' s vertical tail and canard begin to replace this wave-absorbing honeycomb material. In addition, the new absorbing skin adopts graphene material as the carrier of ferrite with absorbing function, and the graphene oxide and ferrite are made into a mixed material through thermochemical reaction, and then the composite material is processed into graphene film and attached to the prefabricated carbon fiber layer, so that the graphene fiber can be stitched again. This is similar to the idea that f35 uses carbon fiber to wrap ferrite to prepare absorbing skin. However, graphene is more resistant to water absorption and complex environment than carbon fiber, more suitable for plateau and island deployment, and more in line with the needs of China (there is a paper on this material, but the name has been forgotten).

On the whole, J20 ≈ F35 >: f22

Through the research on stealth performance of some fighters, it can be seen that f22 has long been unwanted, and new technologies and materials are closely following f35.

As I said at the beginning, the early version of j20 used the f22 system, and now it uses the f35 system, all using mosaics.

This involves the development of fighter planes.

J20 is developed with the concept of fast iteration, but it is slightly different. The so-called rapid iteration is the research and development model of the US military during the Cold War, and the Hundred Series fighters are the product of this research and development concept. This concept aims at rapid research and development and rapid production of a small number of equipment. The sixth generation aircraft of the US military was developed with this concept.

To put it simply, let's start with 5.5, then 5.6, 5.7, 5.8 and finally 6.0.

J20 is different on the basis, because when j20 was developed, f35 for j20 was also speeding up. It is meaningless to form a symmetrical system of j20 and f22 in performance, and there will be a scene that is outdated at birth.

Therefore, at the beginning of j20 design, we should consider the future upgrade, so that j20 can be upgraded to the core of mosaic warfare, thus forming a symmetrical confrontation against f35-even boldly predicting that j20 may not stabilize a large number of versions, and we have been doing technical verification of the sixth generation machine.

It is this idea of "one step at a time, three steps at a time" that is based on some key technologies mentioned above-ultraviolet communication. As early as before the first flight of j20, it achieved breakthrough results and a leading position.

The only thing worth mentioning about f22 is its super maneuverability at low altitude and various speeds, which j20 and f35 can't compare. The f22 is not specially optimized for any speed and altitude, which depends on the engine. After all, at that time, Su -27 was the benchmark and surpassed it, achieving the full airspace maneuver advantage for Su -27 and f22.

However, on the basis of the above three paragraphs, under certain conditions, under many factors such as contemporary national defense and security, f22 is stretched.

J20 focuses on supersonic maneuvering-although the engine has not kept up, 19 is equipped with a new domestic engine. Wiki quoted the US Department of Defense as saying that ws- 10 is a full vector, and j20 began testing ws 15 in 22 years. However, Li Gang, the chief test pilot of j20, revealed that j20 should be equipped with two-dimensional vectors, and there are also two-dimensional vectors when bidding. However, no matter which one is finally installed, the latest j20 supersonic moving hammer f22, under other conditions, the aerodynamic design of j20 has been specially optimized, which is the most complicated and advanced aerodynamic design in the fifth generation machine, but it is still not as good as f22 in some specific fields. Design is giving and taking.

F35 focuses on subsonic maneuvering-considering the design caused by the engine and the operational requirements of both sides, F35 can also show super maneuverability higher than f22 at certain speeds and altitudes, but it also has some shortcomings.

Generally speaking, f22 has its own advantages and disadvantages compared with j20 and f35 in the only super-maneuver that still has certain advantages. In other ways, even confrontation is difficult. Comparing these two goods, they are all made for f22 to breathe air, so come prepared! It's 3090ti Call 2080ti!

In addition, the fifth generation machine standard is said by the United States itself. Anyway, f22 was unique at that time, and no one could refute it. However, with the passage of time, it has become the common sense of China, the United States and Russia that super mobility is not a hard indicator of the fifth-generation aircraft. Super-mobility is of little use in the fifth-generation aircraft operations, and f22 is emphasized to deal with Su -27.

In the civil war of the fifth generation aircraft, even in the cqb state, it is stealth to get rid of the enemy missile lock.

No matter how strong the maneuver is, it is better than the missile.

As I said at the beginning, the characteristics of mature fifth-generation machines. It can be seen that among several characteristics, except stealth performance, other characteristics are determined by the quality of the equipment in the machine. The three fighters also specially optimized their respective combat systems and maneuverability in some expected combat States. Mobility that is not used in the combat system, or rarely used in extreme cases, is abandoned.

If the engine is not strong enough, we can even say that the f22 is a 4.5 or 4.9 generation machine.

The same is true for supersonic cruise. Whether to carry out supersonic cruise or not is decided by each country according to its own needs. China and Russia have a large territory, a long border, many potential imaginary enemies around them, and few air bases. They need supersonic cruise and long voyage to reach the battlefield quickly.

F35 doesn't need it. There are small countries around. f 18/f 16 is enough to take care of them. f22 doesn't need it. The main rivals will be equipped with f35, and the American version of f35 does not need to rush to the front line at all-after all, any ally is suspicious. It's not good for an ally to hold his head high and smoke a cigarette himself.

In the American 4s standard, only super stealth and over-the-horizon attacks are reasonable.

The four characteristics mentioned above are the same characteristics of j20, f35 and Su 57, and are the standards of the fifth generation machine. There is nothing wrong with saying that f22 is 4.5 or 4.9. After all, f22 only meets the stealth standards of three fighters, and other standards are not satisfactory. However, as a pioneer, it is not harsh. Anyway, there are four fifth-generation machines, and it is quite suspicious to consider Su 57. I kicked these two lovely guys out, and the topic of the fifth generation machine is less than half.

Finally, simulate the fight between the two sides. When modern f22 fights j20, j20 will kill it indiscriminately, and it may even kill f22 with' 0 casualties' (not counting drones).

F22 doesn't have an attack fighter that matches him, but all are auxiliary fighters. Under its system, it just rushed up and hit it with one blow. But for the j20 mosaic war, it is useless. There is no early warning aircraft, no tanker and no command center for him to fight. It can't see the j20 itself and can only fight against drones.

Ideally, out of sight, our j20 will find f22 first and launch a coordinated attack with the UAV. The F-22 was super-maneuverable, and counterattacked with air-to-air missiles, killing all drones. It can kill all drones, but it will also run out of air-to-air missiles. When I saw j20, only the cannon was left. But j20 has no cannon. Here's your chance, f22' s chance.

F22 can use its own high altitude to seize a higher position than j20, and kill j20 with a cannon in a dive posture.

J8 can kill f22, and it is reasonable for f22 to kill j20!

Okay, let's get down to business. The confrontation between f22 and j20 is bound to lose, and the cooperation of drones will make f22 unable to move, just like hitting a son.

The United States is still very clear about the use of f22, but it can't beat China and bully him. F22 deployed overseas to Poland for the first time and went to tease Russia. Although Russia is not unprepared, the Su-57 system is used to deal with it. However, with the embarrassment of Russia, it is still a mystery how useful the Su -57 national air defense system can be.

As a retired soldier, it is unfair to fight against the current pillar.

J20 and f35 are rivals of the same level. If the question is who is stronger, j20 or f35, or f22 or Su 57, others can better understand the advantages and disadvantages of various stealth fighters, their tactical systems, aerodynamic design, stealth performance and other issues.

This intergenerational comparison is only a part and will be judged. In fact, the comparison of tactical systems can already determine the advantages and disadvantages of the two fighters.

Because of the tactical system, factors such as aerodynamic design, stealth performance, avionics and even national strength are summarized.

Don't always use the sword of the previous dynasty to cut down the officials of the current dynasty.

F22 is a remnant of the old times. There is no system capable of carrying f22 in the new era. The sixth generation machine is real!