I know the relevant paragraphs in Wen Jieruo's Qian Daosun:

So I had to ask Mr. Qian to put down the five-volume version of The Tale of Genji and translate Jin Song's works and the anthology of Ihara Xihe, a famous novelist in the Edo era. At the same time, Mr. Qian is still translating Selected Leaves, and the publishing house hopes that he can sort out the old versions of Ise Tale and Selected Songs.

Qian Daosun's lifelong wish is to complete the translation of Tale of Genji. At that time, this masterpiece of Japanese heian period had been translated by Mr. Feng Zikai. Therefore, when President Lou took me to his home, he raised this question with regret. President Lou replied, "There are several versions of such a masterpiece. You can retranslate it later. "

1963, I also compiled the first volume of Tale of Genji translated by Feng Zikai. At that time, Qian Daosun was suffering from cataract and reading difficulties. I will read a passage of the original Tale of Genji, and then read the Chinese translation of Feng Zikai's passage. Qian Daosun put forward his views entirely through the hearing. In this way, dozens of amendments have finally been sorted out. I am a carbon copy in duplicate. After all, it was only dictated by Qian Daosun, and he didn't read it. I was afraid that I was not sure, so I gave it to Zhou Zuoren for identification. In Zhou Zuoren's diary 1964, there are two paragraphs:

1 month 23rd

If Wen Jie of People's Literature Publishing House visits, please proofread The Tale of Genji, but his words are inevitable.

February 27(th)

Began to proofread the Tale of Genji.

I guess Zhou Zuoren agreed because of the kindness of his old friend Qian Daosun. 1959 I hit Zhou's nail. The topic of poetry and ode of woodpecker Ishikawa. It's his own decision. Later, I chose several other songs for him to translate. He didn't promise in person, but he wrote a letter that afternoon and declined.

Since Zhou Zuoren accepted this task, he made a careful appraisal and found some problems that we missed. Unfortunately, during the Cultural Revolution, all his original ink was lost. Fortunately, I have copied all the changes in another proofreading manuscript, so I still used them and myself in the release stage of 1980 s, and it was not in vain.

The paragraphs in Chronicle of Zhou Zuoren about Feng's translation of Tales of Genji;

On 1964:

1 month 23rd

If Wen Jie of People's Literature Publishing House visits, please proofread The Tale of Genji, but his words are inevitable.

1 27/month

Began to proofread the Tale of Genji.

February 27:

Reading "Tale of Genji", I found that the translation was very poor and I liked to use vulgar idioms. I don't seem to know anything about the literary atmosphere of the Heian Dynasty. Feng Zikai's translation of Tale of Genji is not credible. "

March 5

He wrote in his diary, "reading Genji's proofreading lightly, Feng Zikai's writing style is just right, and he abuses idioms. No matter whether the original air is consistent or not, this is also a Shanghai style." If Wen Jie corrects it, but he hates it, in fact, there is no translation at all. "

March 10

Read Genji Tale and proofread it to 14. In my diary, I wrote: "The original translation is only accompanied by the story of the Double Everest, so it is not unfair to translate the Tale of Genji. But I was lucky to win this battle. "

March 16

If Wen Jie visits, please write an appraisal opinion on the translation of Tale of Genji. "Because of the leadership (Lou Shiyi), it is better to translate it into vulgarity. Although it is quite troublesome, I have to pick it up. "

March 19

Write and review the translation of Tale of Genji.

Not according to the image: I recently saw these paragraphs in Zhou Zuoren's chronicle, which is quite interesting. I recorded them. I hope you can have a look. I don't know Japanese, and I can't judge the quality of Mr. Feng Zikai's translation. Zhou Zuoren doesn't like abundant translation, and the leader (Lou Shiyi) thinks it is better to translate vulgar evil. I don't know how to write Tang Zhi's translation opinion in the end. It is not easy to do this article well, because we should stick to our own opinions and take care of our own interests! There is also Qian Daosun who translated five volumes of The Source. Can you still find it?

Author: crazy man's fan reply date: 2003-01-kloc-0/9 22: 20: 58

I really want to help him count how many "interesting" things appear in Tang Zhi's Pillow Grass:))

Author: Pei Ranyu Date of reply: 2003-01-kloc-0/9 22: 22: 36

What a pity.

Author: He Jiagan reply date: 2003-01-19 22: 25: 05

I don't know Japanese, and I can't judge the quality of Mr. Feng Zikai's translation.

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Nowadays, even people who know Japanese dare not evaluate the quality of this kind of translation, let alone those who have mastered Japanese beyond the level of affluence, let alone Zhou Qian.

How hard it is to be loyal and elegant!

Author: Pei Ranyu reply date: 2003-01-kloc-0/9 22: 28: 25

In fact, Zhou Zuoren's translation is not so-called faithfulness and elegance, but the appearance of the Six Classics completely annotated me. Otherwise, Zhou Zuoren's writing style is the same as that of Qing Shao Na, which seems impossible.

For Zhou's works, "the original translation is only accompanied by the story of the Double Everest, so it is not unjust to translate the Tale of Genji." Think about it. That's the smell.

There is also Qian Daosun who translated five volumes of The Source. Can you still find it?

Author: Suzhou prawn reply date: 2003-0 1-20 09:06:07

The Tale of Genji translated by Feng Zikai is rich in illustrations, leaving a set.

Author: Zhou La Reply Date: 2003-0 1-20 09:29:25

Brother Xiang:

Mr. Lin, a professor of Chinese Department of Taiwan Province Provincial University, also translated The Tale of Genji. Unfortunately, we can't see this well-translated book in Chinese mainland.

Author: Hulu 123 reply date: 2003-01-2009: 44: 51

Brother Zhou is absolutely right. Lin has translated many famous Japanese literary works. As far as the fragments I have seen are concerned, the "quality" is very good. Her translation is "Tale of Genji"< I want to buy it online, but I can't.

Author: Wang Xianghe and Wang Xiang reply date: 2003-01-2012: 09: 50.

Brother He is absolutely right!

Zhou Ge and Hu, I have only read a few articles by Lin, and I have been longing for them.

Author: crazy man's paper fan reply date: 2003-01-2012: 27:13

me too

I also want Lin to translate. I hear it's great.

Author: Zhou La Reply Date: 2003-01-2012: 38: 35

Paper Fan Jun:

To some extent, Mr. Lin's translation is better than Feng Zikai's. This is what I saw in a brief introduction, probably about the translation of the original chorus.

When talking about the translation of The Tale of Genji, Mr. Song Qi did not shy away: "I compared the four versions of Wiley in England, Searle, Lin and Feng Zikai in America, and reviewed several chapters. Wei Li's translation is the most subjective. He omitted the red tape described in the book, but made full use of what the original secretly confessed or did not explain, adding many chapters, which really violated the taboo of translation and was unqualified. Feng Zikai didn't explain which version it was based on at all, and the translation was half written and half white. "Is this true?" The empty word became' What is this?' ; Harmony songs are either translated into five sentences or seven-character poems, which is not harmonious. As Yu Guangzhong said, there are many mistranslations, and the translation in translation theory is obviously disappointing. "(Zhou Zuoren also has a similar opinion. In July of 1964 and 13, he wrote to Bao, saying: "Thirteen sisters' recent comments on Feng Zikai are not very clever, because they recently saw the translation of Feng's Tale of Genji, which is a storyteller in a tea shop. They don't seem to understand what Genji is. " )

Author: crazy man's fan reply date: 2003-01-2012: 41:10.

I just don't like translating into ancient poems, so I want to see Lin's translation.

But I wonder if the name translated by Lin is the same. I think the names are all well translated.

Author: Shelley Banana Reply Date: 2003-01-2012: 50: 52

Translating Tale of Genji is not an easy task, but translating Japanese into Japanese. Even Yasunari Kawabata and Junichiro Tanizaki, who are familiar with Japanese, find translation difficult. Gu translated it three times. What do you want?

Author: crazy man's paper fan reply date: 2003-01-2012: 52:16

Kawabata Yasunari and Junichiro Tanizaki say that people are "familiar with Japanese", which seems too ... that ... that. ...

Author: Zhou La Reply Date: 2003-01-2012: 55: 54

Bajiaojun:

Then ask the Fang family for advice.

Author: Shelley Banana Reply Date: 2003-01-2017: 24: 46

Reflections on Feng Zikai's Translation of The Story of Origin

The translation of Tale of Genji is hard to say who is good and who is accurate, and they don't understand the original text. Even if I know Japanese, I'm afraid it's hard to understand. Modern Japanese can hardly understand it. I am an art student. I learned a little Japanese and forgot to go to Java a long time ago. I know nothing about literature. I just want to say a few words as an ordinary reader. I have the first edition with illustrations by Qin Long. A few years ago, I tried to read chapters such as Erect, Bridge of Dreams, and found it difficult to enter a happy reading state. This is mainly caused by the slow narrative style of the article, and the story is probably not strong. Feng introduced the book in the postscript, saying: The original text is quaint and simple, which is similar to the Analects of Confucius and Tan Gong in China, so it is not suitable for vernacular translation. Today, I tried to translate in this style, but unfortunately, I can't express the style of the original text. This shows that Feng still has reservations about his translation. In fact, his views are similar to those of Junichiro Tanizaki. Junichiro Tanizaki said that it is necessary to copy the features of the original text and keep a little "difficult" and "obscure" of the original text. What Junichiro Tanizaki said is that there are many Chinese characters and old pseudonyms in the original [original story], and "obscure" probably means too many honorifics and modesty, which puzzles modern people. English translation does not consider these, is it better to understand? At least Kawabata Yasunari was deeply moved and fell in love with Japanese literature from reading the English version of the original story. After all, it's much easier for me to watch the movie [A Thousand Years of Love] (adapted from the original) than to watch the original.

It is worth noting that the new version of Wen Feng's translation of [The Source of Stories] was a great failure, because it deleted the illustrations drawn by Qin Long. This new book is dozens of times more expensive than the old one. I don't know what humanities think. Qin Long's [Original Story] illustration is also a masterpiece in the history of China's book illustration, which has been widely praised. Moreover, Japanese illustrations of past dynasties are as double-walled as books, and they are inexhaustible good materials for painters of past dynasties. This is also a common phenomenon in today's publishing industry: the original excellent illustrations are either not available or the pictures are not satisfactory, and equally frightening is that the prices are ridiculously expensive. This reminds me of my favorite illustration of Kent [Moby Dick], and it took me three years to make it more perfect and wonderful. I feel that the excellent illustration of the original story is very helpful to enter the original story.

There should be a complete story in the world, and the translator doesn't know who it is. I don't like this binding. It's too thick to read. As far as reading is concerned, it is better to divide it into three volumes. The progress of modern science and technology makes binding and design more tacky and inconvenient. Modern books are hard to take down without your hands. If some glue on your back is too thick, you must open it hard. It is basically impossible to spread it out on the table. Where is the pleasure of reading? Unless it's hardcover.

Zhou Zuoren and Feng Zikai are both my favorite writers, and they have translated a large number of ancient Japanese literary works upon request. Zhou Zuoren translated Pillow Grass and Pingjia Story (the first six volumes); Feng Zikai translated yuanshi county Tale, Luowa Tale, Ise Tale and Bamboo Tale. They tried to understand Japanese ancient literature and translated it with good intentions. As an ordinary reader, I can only express my deep gratitude from my heart. It's hard to say who is good and who is bad. I have neither the motivation nor the heart to explore and compare. If there is a forest version of "The Source of Living Water", I am willing to double it. After all, the writing styles of male and female authors are very different. As Donald King said, "It is easier for foreigners to understand the meaning of (the original story)." I think this mainly refers to the vivid characters and stories that [the original story] shows us. Although the original story translated by Feng Zikai is not completely beautiful, what does it matter?

Don't you think all translations are like this? Just like Ulysses in Humanities and Yilin, people argue inappropriately. Who knows the translator's heart? They translate with good intentions, often for a word, a word, and go to great lengths to compare and scrutinize, but also for a good inspiration and joy, which is unknown to readers. Not long ago, I saw an interview with Yang Yi's daughter (both husband and wife are translators and the daughter is a painter) on TV. She mentioned her mother's bitter translation of Wuthering Heights, thus realizing her wish to visit Wuthering Heights on her behalf. In the postscript of Wuthering Heights, Yang Yi wrote: One night, it was stormy outside the window, and a gust of wind roared by, and the rain fell on the glass window, just like Catherine was crying outside the window and told me to open the window. The house where I live used to be a desolate garden. At this time, I almost felt that I was in an old house near the Yorkshire moor. I read Wuthering Heights unconsciously-suddenly inspiration fell from the sky, and I excitedly wrote down the four characters Wuthering Heights. This Wuthering Heights is much better than Wuthering Heights translated in Taiwanese, which shows how rare the word "Wuthering" is.

Many translations often surprise readers of the original text. It's really not easy to translate a famous book well. We only ask the translator to follow the original text as much as possible, at least it won't surprise people.

Author: Wang Xianghe and Wang Xiang reply date: 2003-01-2019: 26:12.

I once watched The Tale of Genji on Phoenix TV.

Author: Shelley Banana Reply Date: 2003-01-2021:30: 22

I've watched several episodes of TV, but it's too late to attract people. Unlike the period of "Love in Tokyo", it is even less brilliant.

Genji Tale in the Thousand-year Love Story

Original: Murasaki Tombu

Director: Toshiyuki Tokugawa

Script: Kozao Sakamoto

Photography: Tatsuo Suzuki

Starring: Yuuki Armani/Takako Tokiwa/Sayuri Yoshinaga

Story:

This is a story in which two clues are neck and neck.

Thousands of years ago, Murasaki Tombu, who lived in the original country of Vietnam (now Fukui Prefecture), indulged in his favorite books and wrote novels to kill time quietly. Fujiwara's letter broke this leisure. He is a powerful minister who holds confidential court documents. He hopes that Murasaki shikibu can come to Kyoto to be the teacher of his daughter Qiu Zi. Kyoto, the most elegant and gorgeous city in the world, is it necessary to go to a place I never thought I would go again? Murasaki shikibu lingered in this carefree time, but she finally made up her mind that my novel needed the atmosphere of Kyoto, and I would go there to finish it anyway.

Murasaki shikibu's work Tale of Genji takes Guangyuan as the protagonist. He is the son of Emperor Tonghu. He is good at writing and martial arts. He has unparalleled beauty and is admired by people. However, Guangyuan, who married Kwai Ji at the age of 12, had long understood the unhappiness in life, and his heart was depressed-he fell in love with a man he could not love, his father's favorite concubine, Barnacle Palace.

In the world outside the novel, Qiu Zi, as a tool of court struggle, bears the fate of marrying the emperor. His clear and moving eyes deeply touched Murasaki shikibu. I don't know when it started, and Murasaki's department began to tell the story of Genji to Akiko, and this story melted into his own life experience. At that time, there was no such long "love story between men and women" at home and abroad in Japan. Qiu Zi, who was still ignorant at that time, gradually fell in love with the characters in the story. Although he was shocked by Guangyuan's behavior when he slept every night, he was still attracted by this world mixed with love and joy. Taoist Fujiwara and his daughter felt the unique charm of Murasaki shikibu almost at the same time, and Fujiwara's heart began to be quietly taken away by this woman.

The novel continues. Even if the concubines travel and indulge in pleasure, Guangyuan can't forget his love for barnacles, and the taboo door opens for him. Barnacles leave the palace because of illness, so they hide in the room and have forced sexual intercourse. The night is like a dream, and barnacles are pregnant with Guangyuan's child in this night. All this is like an introduction, which quietly opens the prelude to Guangyuan's life story, his never-ending love and forever sad legend. Barnacles blamed themselves for this nondescript emotion, and she gradually moved away from Guangyuan, making him recall his love memory only once all day, feeling anxious and painful. By chance, when Guangyuan went to a buddhist nun in the depths of Beishan, he met a girl named Sharla Cheung who looked like a barnacle. He is determined to cultivate this girl into an ideal woman with his own hands, in order to pin his thoughts on barnacles.

In Yin Wei's novels, Guangyuan, who pursues true love unremittingly, is constantly taught by Murasaki's department, so Akiko gradually becomes an elegant and lovely woman, just as Ji Zi gradually becomes an elegant and outstanding woman under the guidance of Guangyuan. But what Sharla Cheung didn't expect in the book was that Guangyuan had a new lover, Ming Shijie. A similar sudden pain came to Akiko. Things between men and women are probably inevitable to get hurt anyway, right? When Murasaki shikibu told her a secret, Akiko's distress began to turn into fear, and her whole heart was shocked like never before-

Introduction to original works and movies:

Japan is a country full of contradictions. At the same time, the tradition of discriminating against women prevails, and the world's earliest long realistic novel Tale of Genji was written by a woman. It can probably be regarded as a dream of red mansions in Japan, because the relationship between characters is complex, with as many as 400 characters. The Source mainly tells the life of Japanese aristocrats in Heian period, and takes Guangyuan's story as the core, bringing out many ambiguous women. Kwai Ji is his Tang Huo in law, with noble background and indifferent temperament. Guangyuan snubbed her, and she gradually got barnacles, chestnuts, chestnuts and many other beloved women. There are more than a dozen aristocratic women who have been close to Guangyuan's family, such as a long moonlit night, a beautiful sunset, and a six-product imperial meal. There are many realistic books, either because of chance encounter or life-long fate.